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I certainly have a vested interest in all of this, as I'm at Dartmouth, and an author of the companion paper in the NEJM -- which appears not to have been read! So my comments can be discounted accordingly.

1. Fisher was quoted out of context -- check his NYT letter to the editor.

2. Bach apparently did not understand that all our end-of-life measures are risk-adjusted. For example, we are interested in how cancer patients in their last 2 years of life are treated at hospital A versus hospital B, and how much they are bounced around from one hospital to another during this difficult time. We think it's informative -- but it's only one of many measures we look at.

3. As we show in our New England Journal of Medicine article (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/362/7/569-a), it doesn't matter whether one uses heart attack patients (which avoid all of the hypothetical concerns voiced by Bach) or end-of-life measures, that the cost measure yields the same answer: high cost hospitals for end-of-life care are also high cost hospitals for treating heart attack patients. In other words, his hypothetical complaints are, well, hypothetical.

4. That Bach doesn't like end-of-life measures says nothing about the dozens of different measures of utilization that are downloadable (www.dartmouthatlas.org). The media and the bloggers got this so wrong.

5. I've also seen the lazy claim that somehow Amber Barnato's study "refutes" Dartmouth work. Nothing of the sort -- she is a coauthor of ours! Some studies find tiny positive associations between spending and outcomes; her results suggest hundreds of thousands of dollars must be spent to extend the lifespan of a frail elderly person by a few months. A recent study by Lena Chen and colleagues from Harvard found essentially no effect, and our NEJM paper (the one mentioned above) found a negative association between spending and outcomes. The key point is that quality and spending across hospitals is essentially uncorrelated, meaning that there is tremendous opportunity to both save money and save lives.

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